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Tahoma;color:black;mso-font-kerning:0pt">怨,是否也指怨刺,有着对社会的不满和抨击,比如《硕鼠》《伐檀》等等6 A' t* d! d" H1 K$ K2 S8 W/ S+ o
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Tahoma;color:black;mso-font-kerning:0pt">是啊,大家看看习总的语言风格,文学素养深厚,值得学习。
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