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    今日下午,《论语札记》作者贾陆英老师继续在老秘网QQ群“重温经典读书会”组织大家学习讨论《论语》为政篇第2章。有贾老师的热心授课,我们的重温经典读书会已名副其实了。昨天老秘网新开了“公文写作合议庭”版块,也期待大家积极参与。这里,老猫把今日的聊天记录整理如下:


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走着 发表于 2013-12-19 07:32:58 | 显示全部楼层
 
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非学无以立德,非学无以增智。读书学习的过程就是交流思想的过程,就是与良师益友对话的过程,可以使我们立德、修身、养性、改过。感谢贾老师赐教。
 
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